Ian Esplen: Tootoo and RFA Sound Off Tootoo and RFA Sound Off

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No interest in Too too. None. Even for league minimum. Canucks don't need another guy for the league to target.
Canucks should just trade them Edler for a package that includes Nygust(sp)

Ian Esplen: Tootoo and RFA Sound Off
Tootoo and RFA Sound Off
- IanEsplen

Great blog. Couldnt agree more about the rfa.

Ian Esplen: Tootoo and RFA Sound Off
Tootoo and RFA Sound Off
- IanEsplen

Adding Tootoo would definitely help the Canucks continue to be the most hated team in the NHL.

I think one of the elements that hold these deals up is that many teams want a shorter term so that said player is still an RFA at the end of the deal, rather than a UFA. I don't think it's as big a deal as you make it out to be, but that's just me.

This may sound dumb....Is it possible to sign a player to a one year deal then sign them to a contract extension the next day? In leafs case it would definitely help to keep that cap hit down for next year. Sign kadri and franson to one year 3 mill contracts then give them a long term contract with the money and term they want right after.

This may sound dumb....Is it possible to sign a player to a one year deal then sign them to a contract extension the next day? In leafs case it would definitely help to keep that cap hit down for next year. Sign kadri and franson to one year 3 mill contracts then give them a long term contract with the money and term they want right after.
- MLeafs81

Great point. Not sure but I dont think there is anything wrong with it. Never thought of this.

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No interest in Too too. None. Even for league minimum. Canucks don't need another guy for the league to target.
Canucks should just trade them Edler for a package that includes Nygust(sp)
- Bieksa#3

Agree, on Tutu, no thanks. Detroit made that bed, now they have to sleep in it. If the cap is a problem for Detroit, then offer sheet him for one year and $2.5m. They can always match but then they would be forced to move someone else...

This may sound dumb....Is it possible to sign a player to a one year deal then sign them to a contract extension the next day? In leafs case it would definitely help to keep thatey woul cap hit down for next year. Sign kadri and franson to one year 3 mill contracts then give them a long term contract with the money and term they want right after.
- MLeafs81

Why would Kadri or Franson even consider this? Since they would be underpaid by at least 50% for one yr, would they leafs overpay them for the remainder of the contract?

Why would Kadri or Franson even consider this? Since they would be underpaid by at least 50% for what yr, would they leafs overpay them for the remainder of the contract?
- Bieksa#3

Well I wouldn't say 50% lol but giving them a one year bridge and also giving them exactly want they'd want for a long term extension because of that would be way more of a risk for the leafs then the players I think.

Ian Esplen: Tootoo and RFA Sound Off
Tootoo and RFA Sound Off
- IanEsplen

what's the salary cap again? I forget...


Also... all the players you listed as "previous examples" are signigicantly better than EVERYBODY on the RFA list with exception of Pietrangelo.

Agree, on Tutu, no thanks. Detroit made that bed, now they have to sleep in it. If the cap is a problem for Detroit, then offer sheet him for one year and $2.5m. They can always match but then they would be forced to move someone else...
- 1970vintage

Edler for Smith, Nyquest(sp) and Abbelgaitor

Why would Kadri or Franson even consider this? Since they would be underpaid by at least 50% for one yr, would they leafs overpay them for the remainder of the contract?
- Bieksa#3

what?

$3M for Kadri is 50% underpaid? and Franson?

little early to have smoked that much crack, don't ya think?

Well I wouldn't say 50% lol but giving them a one year bridge and also giving them exactly want they'd want for a long term extension because of that would be way more of a risk for the leafs then the players I think.
- MLeafs81

Given the current market, Franson is worth 4.5(see Voynov and Josi) and Kadri is worth over 5.

Edler for Smith, Nyquest(sp) and Abbelgaitor
- Bieksa#3

Sounds like a movie monster.

what?

$3M for Kadri is 50% underpaid? and Franson?

little early to have smoked that much crack, don't ya think?
- Big_Lightnin

I see you haven't seen the contracts signed this summer. Either that or your not very bright.

Sounds like a movie monster.
- 1970vintage

what?

$3M for Kadri is 50% underpaid? and Franson?

little early to have smoked that much crack, don't ya think?
- Big_Lightnin

There is a 3 hour time difference, it's pretty much lunch time out east.

I think one of the elements that hold these deals up is that many teams want a shorter term so that said player is still an RFA at the end of the deal, rather than a UFA. I don't think it's as big a deal as you make it out to be, but that's just me.
- 1970vintage

this.

They are RFA's. and nobody is offersheeting anyone on that list, cause the team would match anything reasonable, or happily take the picks for unreasonable.

in a reduced cap world, teams can't overpay RFA's just to keep them happy when they have to overpay UFA's to get them to sign at all.

I see you haven't seen the contracts signed this summer. Either that or your not very bright.
- Bieksa#3

you think Kadri is worth $6M a year, and I'm not very bright?

seriously, open a window or something.

This may sound dumb....Is it possible to sign a player to a one year deal then sign them to a contract extension the next day? In leafs case it would definitely help to keep that cap hit down for next year. Sign kadri and franson to one year 3 mill contracts then give them a long term contract with the money and term they want right after.
- MLeafs81

I believe that you can only negotiate a new contract when you are in the last year of the existing contract, so I think that technically this would be allowed. However, if you were to sign a player to a one year deal and immediately sign them to an 8 year extension the league may have an issue with that as circumventing the new 8 year contract max...?

you think Kadri is worth $6M a year, and I'm not very bright?

seriously, open a window or something.
- Big_Lightnin

5 and 6 are different numbers, so yes this pretty much proves the not very bright comment

you think Kadri is worth $6M a year, and I'm not very bright?

seriously, open a window or something.
- Big_Lightnin

This is simple math my friend. 50% overpaid is 4.5m not 6m. That is 100% overpaid.

Given the current market, Franson is worth 4.5(see Voynov and Josi) and Kadri is worth over 5.
- Bieksa#3

guess Leaf fans aren't the only ones who overvalue Leaf players.

Who here would trade Voynov for Franson straight up if you're LA?

Sounds like a movie monster.
- 1970vintage

...in a tornado!